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miss_squiddy ([personal profile] miss_squiddy) wrote2006-01-05 10:26 am

Arrr, matey!

Hrrm. Seems that record companies have launched a new weapon in the fight against music piracy - uncopiable (and seemingly unplayable) CDs! (Note the splendid returns policy...)



I can see this idea being scrapped almost immediately (if it can't be 'fixed' with black marker pen) - it's getting to the point where most people won't want a CD they can't copy onto their iPod, MP3 player or computer...

Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] mikki_g for the link!

[identity profile] lleuadtywyll.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
What a bag of wank...I'm always putting tracks onto cd-r from cds, I imagine this would alienate a lot of people!

[identity profile] pleb.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
Let's hope it's proven to be a shite idea before it's employed on decent albums.
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[identity profile] nibber.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
indeed, esp if any artist is expecting club play as i expect the above would rule out most club cd systems :/

still, coldplay cd's make great tea coasters...

[identity profile] tintintin.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
Thank buggery I didn't throw my discman away!

[identity profile] mortarach.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't think its going to pose much of a problem.

I seem to remember that these "uncopyable" CD's run a little garbling program in windows that makes mp3 recording come out sounding like aliens in the bath. I'm presuming its the same with these because they'll only work on a newer PC and not a mac (which doesnt have the anti-piracy software). Theres loads of guides on how to switch off the garbling software on the web.

It might be that you have to have the software running to make it play now, but that wont be a problem as you'll get software freely available to counter it not long after.

If you take into account that it still has to be an audio CD for it to play on a normal CD player, then there is no way they can stop it being recorded as the computer can just access it in the same way to copy it.

[identity profile] mikki-g.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
Here is the message it sends:

Buy cd's, but you wont be able to play them in your car, or on your computer, or on your iPod even though you own it. If you do put it on your computer it may open you to attacks and make your computer not work.

or

Download the MP3's and do whatever the hell you like with them.

Hmm, hard choice!

[identity profile] thepussykat.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
Bonepeeler by Wumpscut also had this kind of crap on it.

Especially annoying as I couldn't make a back up copy and then my album got nicked.

[identity profile] squiddity.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Or, what I do.

I buy the albumns I like.
I use the CDs to play in my car stereo or to lend to people.
I download the MP3s illegally (though possibly not as I do own a license for the music) to put on my MP3 player (though, obviously, only if I cannot rip my legasl copy directly).
I also download music I don't like as my MP3 player is often used to provide music for social engagements - I don't buy these albumns though.

It strikes me as a good halfway house.
I do want to support the artists who produce music I like, but in the same way as I used to tape music from the radio of from friends to have music to play socially, I still want to have access to music that I don't especially want to pay for.

[identity profile] mrscruff.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
If you think this whole debacle smells of Richard Branson's Pants, I had a DVD boxset for Christmas which has 'Anti Piracy' software to prevent it being read in a PC - this is pretty bloody annoying as I usually watch DVDs in my room on my PC.

Useless.

[identity profile] lee-chaos.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Philips, the people who own the copyright for CD technology, won't even allow these monged-up CDs to bear the Compact Disc logo. Even they're fighting it from the inside.

All this is bollocks. If sound comes out of a cable, as it must, that cable can be plugged in somewhere else to record.

Record companies should spend less protecting their copyrights and more investing in good music.

Sharing music is good.

This is the thin end of a rant for me, which i shall back away from slowly now...

[identity profile] lucien-dark.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Very recently Sony have been in the shit for a similar thing - their copy protection system makes you listen to the protected cd only through their own software when you play it on a pc, to prevent copying. The problem with this being that hackers can use this software to hide their own code on your machine, and if you try to remove the software it's very easy to fuck up your windows install and make it useless. Luckily they got what they deserved on this one - sued instantly, huge out of court settlement, have to recall all of the cds with this on, have to exchange the cds people have already bought for clean ones, can't make any more cds with the software on, etc. Dicks.

[identity profile] lee-chaos.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Given it more thought, it's not *actually* 'copy protected' at all, is it? It's more like 'general use protected'. There might be a trades description argument there too...

[identity profile] rohypnolslag.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Pah and fah!

Cobblers. As Mr Chaos points out, nothing is impossible to pirate. If it is possible to play some media, it is possible to duplicate it.

But less people listening to Coldplay can only be a good thing.

Copyshmitewrs (not a spelling mistake)

[identity profile] fading-star13.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Hail to the Thief has copyrighted malarky on it.

You can't copy it. Which I have no right to feel annoyed about eing as it wasn't mine, but HELL! I wanted a copy of it for free.

Rabble rabble rabble.

This is just silly also....

[identity profile] fading-star13.livejournal.com 2006-01-05 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you heard about the new DVDs too?

Sony and philips are coming up with a new DVD (not the blue ray ones for HDTV) but just a new type of DVD. This DVD will not be able to be copied. It has no better quality or anything like that.

Oh, and it won't work on ANY existing DVD player, including the yet to be released Playstation 3.